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 Post subject: kcse results
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:38 pm 
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its really saddening when our region (dawida) ndeina top 100 student nationally.i dont know what is wrong but i think time to re-evaluate our education standards in the region is now.

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:31 am 
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foundation coupled with poverty is one of the major reason. in my village i was surprised just the other day to learn that a nursery school teacher who is in her early 70s is still teaching :shock: efforts to remove her became futile and this is how she argued her case 'wele munighalisha ne ndaja kii? surprisingly she had some support' :shock: :shock: now if basic foundation of a child is given by a mzee can imagine what this old lady is teaching (kidawida thru'out) and remember what a child grasp until at the age of seven remains permanent; can that child produce good marks really?

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:36 am 
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The most surprising thing is that the schools recruit students not from dawida only, so I think poverty cannot be blamed here....plus these are people who passed their KCPE so we cannot say that their foundation was wanting.....me thinks discipline in our schools is ZERO. I also think the teachers and the school management are not doing enough....

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:06 pm 
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Catherine Mghoi wrote:
The most surprising thing is that the schools recruit students not from dawida only, so I think poverty cannot be blamed here....plus these are people who passed their KCPE so we cannot say that their foundation was wanting.....me thinks discipline in our schools is ZERO. I also think the teachers and the school management are not doing enough....


mghoi i tend to agree with you on the issue of disclipline among students.lets not point a finger at teachers and school managers,remember discpline starts at home before proceeding to school.

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:27 am 
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May be just maybe we taitas are DAFT. Why do I think so?
1.We are producing children who are failing in exams
2.We are unable to interrogate why we are experiencing this state of failure in exams
3.We are content in the dismal performance of our boys and girls
4. We cannot come up with innovative ideas of improving school performance in the region
5. or We didnt have any taita sitting the exams in 2009!!!!!! :oops: :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:59 pm 
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no no no we are not daft only some few issues ought to be adressed first :!: :!:

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:50 pm 
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Try keeping intelligent women in Taita instead of letting them marry outside Taita. Few Taita men have the guts to marry an educated woman......each one looks for a woman less educated than themselves. If you keep on lowering your standards, the rule of natural selection shows that an inferior product will produce and even more inferior product than itself.

I regret this but I have to tell you the truth........Who else will? :roll: :roll: Hate me if you wish but the truth must be told. If you want a better dog, breed it with a better breed; if you want your chicken to have a larger variety chicks, find a good looking cock ( :evil: not what you are thinking :!: ) to rule your breed; if you need a better milk yielding cow, get a bull that carries the right genes from the experience of your acqaintances. :!: :!: I learned all these at home in Mghange........not in high school or university. I watched my father get large strong cocks for his chicken and saw the chicks that we got after that.

Wamzedu, at the rate Wadawida are going, in the long run there will be few Wadawida in National and district schools. Bright children need the right genes and the right guidance........educated mothers provide that. Sighorie each woman to get a degree.....marry the girls who have passed first, instead of running for those who failed. Otherwise Taita women will see and do see that the easiest way to get a husband is to flunk your exams. It has been that way for decades......So many girls are told not to go beyond form 4 if they wish to marry Wadawida. For those who do go to higher institutes of learning, they know that they are pariah in the Taita marriage market and look beyond for men eager to accept them and appreciate them as they are.


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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Mkaghaji ... you had to bring this issue again....
Tena Blaming Men for all the failures ..... To I think all this has nothing to do with Gender ...
I'd rather get married to a non academic perfomer
Who is well mannered, with respect and carries herself like a woman
Than the so called educated and independent ..
With minimal wisdom, and who believes that their academic excellence is a weapon to make men feel low......

My observation isTaita Schools have performed poorly ...
In these Schools, there were students from almost all over the country ..
My opinion is we have a problem in our schools ..
It could be in management
Parental couselling ..
Not putting priorities in oder ...
Internal Politics ...
And the list goes on and on...

I have heard that there are people who have done investigations
About poor performance in our region
and recommendations were made ...
unfortunately no one has taken the time to implement anything

In anycase, blame game will lead us nowhere ...
Sisi wadawida si wajinga ...
And I doubt if there is any one community as a whole which is daft..


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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:03 am 
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Mkaghaji,

Natural selection was not invented by me. Hata wandu wikakawa mapemba wadasaghua mbeu ihi ipoie wiiwike ambai eri vua ikanya wiwe wipate viro vipoie zaidi.

From your tone, which is echoed by the majority of Taitas, an educated woman has been judged long before she gets that education. I remember when I was admitted at the University of Nairobi in 1980 and I was lectured by my cousin and his wife about the disadvantage of being an educated Taita woman for many days. I went anyway.

Those Taita women whom you think will be lording it on you are magnificent partners to others. A woman needs love and loyalty, fidelity. If a man cannot offer these he has cause to worry about because educated women have more choices than others. A woman who stays with a man despite his mistreatments makes everyone unhappy........if the man is a poor provider to his family, his children will suffer less if the mother has a steady income. Indeed, if my mom had not been a teacher, I would not be here today.

The more a man loves a woman, the more abundant love he receives in return. Taitas fear educated women because they want to "control" them, not love them. We can hardly "control" our kids, how can we "control" grown men or women? I can control a man through loving actions.......not because of a ring.

The children born are male and female........I agree.......natural selection in reverse........breeders think of the future outcome. Let Wadawida start thinking that way. I have nothing against Wadawida men......I have a man who loves me even more because of my education; it complements his. Respect is good; pick up your self-esteem and face the educated women of Taita. Otherwise all the best brains will be scattered in Kenya and beyond. The good thing, these half-Taita men go for educated Taita women.


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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:23 am 
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:D i like the flow of wordings up here, capri kwawada mbela nyodo angu ni lwembe :lol: :lol: ela kwaghora loli they say: nothing ventured; nothing gained

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:49 am 
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Mkaghaji ado hae ....
The way you are trying to make us believe that you are talking about natural selection the more you drift away from your point ...
To me natural Selection would mean men getting married to women they love and vice versa
and not the conditions you are mentioning here ...
They should not think of education back ground or any other man made condition
Then that would sounds natural to me ..
just like the animals
They use the chemistry to pair up ...

In my view, natural selection has nothing to do with education back ground or material things

Another thing is
Some women reading this might tend to believe that you are speaking for them
But in really sense you are turnishing their feminity
You make them appear as though they have no power whatsoever to select their partners
They will take any man who comes their way and tell them ....can you marry me
I guess there is more than that..
Taita women are intelligent and would not take any man for marriage...
If he is not well educated, then he could be wealthy, if not then he must be a nice gentleman.. hata kama ni maskini...
Taita women make their choices well and same to the men..

And by the way, have you seen well aducated couples giving birth to non academic performers ...
And the vice versa is also true ...


And your experience of 30 years ago is some how irrelevant now
Wataita of those days are different from taitas of today in many things...
I guess my great grand mother would have similar views

Tusianzane na mambo ya gender fight ...it will lead us to an uncalled for fights...

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:11 am 
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The situation at hand is poor perfomance in our schools!!! results are getting worst each year! take for example Bura Girls when it was being run by Presious Blood sisters, it was among the top in the country, then in came St Joseph sisters, perfomance went down, then Headmistress ambaye si sister and its at the bottom, mpaka 5 girls did not get their results because of cheating......ITS A SHAME :oops:
If the school could perform well then...why not now???? what is missing???? what went wrong????
One thing I know for sure.....discipline in our schools is zero and the buck stops with the school management...BOG, PTA etc and the teachers. I know the parents also have their share here but I believe the schools managenment have the power to suspend and expel students who prove difficult to discipline!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
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Now this kind of analyising the issue makes me have a smile
This is a somber way of dealing with the issue at hand ...
We have to find the reasons and grounds of poor performance
Then later we can go towards tackling them as much as we can....
Kusema wanaume ndio wanasababisha watoto waanguke mitihani italeta vita hapa...
Akitambaya kurasimilo ...

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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:19 am 
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raheli wrote:
:D i like the flow of wordings up here, capri kwawada mbela nyodo angu ni lwembe :lol: :lol: ela kwaghora loli they say: nothing ventured; nothing gained


Raheli,

((((HUGS)))) :!: Taitas need a little truth.........let the real men go for those Taita women with careers. Then the boys and girls will aim higher to get those girls with careers. The girls will realize that their education makes them more attractive to Taita men, not vice versa. Now the expecations are low and the performance is even lower. When I was growing up I heard that the children from lower Taita.....Mbololo, Mwakitau etc, worked harder because of the hardships resulting from drought and many excelled, motivated to find jobs instead of being victims of droughts over and over again. They had many role models too.

Let the men learn to woo Taita women, sio kuwidaghadira just because there are many to chose from.........only one is a soulmate.......and many guys miss the right woman by being too critical and failing to see the true nature of the person they are attracted to; they look at the obstacles instead.

Anyway.......wuloli ghughoro!! Wacha kusasaghilwa Mkaghajhi.........! Mbeu ni mbeu.....!


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 Post subject: Re: kcse results
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:18 am 
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Mkaghaji ado hae ....
:shock: :shock: ...........................
And your experience of 30 years ago is some how irrelevant now
Wataita of those days are different from taitas of today in many things...
[/color=#FF0000] I guess my great grand mother would have similar views


Tusianzane na mambo ya gender fight ...it will lead us to an uncalled for fights...[/color]

.................................................!!! :!: :!: :shock: :shock:

Mkaghajhi,

You never cease to amaze me.......aren't you paying for an education in Vienna, probably working two jobs to get it? I hope next year someone tells you your degree is outdated because newer people have graduated after you. How many members here go for evening classes at University of Nairobi.........I love studying......it builds self-esteem and it is easier than many of you think. I study all the time and next week I will be in a part-time class.

Education is valuable any time........I did not stop learning just because I got an admission to the University of Nairobi in 1980. I have many pages of other training and visited about 6 countries abroad for courses before leaving the public service in 2004.

I am even better educated now, truly relevant and able to lecture many of those born after 1980. I live with teenagers and get a lot of reverse mentoring so I will never be old in the real sense because I live with the current times. Many things have changed but Wadawida hardly change; women appear to conform to what is expected of them and life goes on the same way.

If they were not my people, I would give up on them, let them be the way they want to be. Education, development and gender balance go together. Just because those powerless feminine women you love to praise are hanging on your arm smiling the social smile :roll: :roll: that is expected of them, it does not mean that they are happy in their hearts of hearts. :lol: :lol: :!: Gender issues must be addressed if men want to be happy. Women will be happier and men will be the beneficiaries. Free those women to love you truly, not to appeaar to do so. I find Taita expectations on women a burden.......they cannot be themselves....they have to conform to what the men want ( in bed and out) :roll: :roll: . I am no feminist.....I love a good broadminded man who allows me to be free to be myself. I am no man hater.....I am against social attitudes that stop women from realizing their full potential.

Have you heard this: A child was resentful when the father commanded him to sit; then he thought inwardly: "I may be standing but in my heart, I am still sitting". Those conforming women are not revealing their true nature to you. Need I say more? BTW........My grandmother, whose name I bear was my heroine and thought just like me....broke rules to be inherited and chose her own companion when she was widowed.....I do not need other heroines.


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